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海歸不成返美的那些人很浮躁

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發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 19:53:41 | 只看該作者 |倒序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
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看見998剛才人家問俺一個挺逗的話題,以后的出路就是出去侃嗎?。本人感覺是海歸后重新回美國的那些人不能用,他們對金錢的浮躁真是青出于藍(lán)而勝于藍(lán)。+ a5 T3 q, M6 D! ~" }2 d

9 y- S" ~3 O1 g一朋友醫(yī)學(xué)博士,10年響應(yīng)政府號召海歸回國辦藥廠,過期專利的那種藥物和中間體,改造的舊廠房為藥物車間也相當(dāng)氣派,辦公大樓同樣氣派,但不知為什么仍然一事無成,重新回美國。15年和我們談一個中間體(副產(chǎn)品)項目,開口25萬美金/年薪,要按月支付,2年合同。哈,年薪成了月薪。月薪按8000米他又不甘心,最終就這么不了了之。新年電話聊天,方知道他現(xiàn)在做起房地產(chǎn)生意,買賣美國土地房地產(chǎn)等,不知道收入如何。" V( c, D# X5 q7 ?+ t3 F! D' u4 O2 I
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美國的年薪和月薪完全二回事,是2個不同的概念,年薪遠(yuǎn)超月薪,是指很高的工資,在歐米國家的公司,一般月薪超過1萬美金就按年薪計算,要么你自己開公司,給其他公司做顧問或成為供應(yīng)商,要么拿月薪。$ G& B- f. x1 x" q& i* t
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 樓主| 發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 20:09:02 | 只看該作者
本帖最后由 山芋頭 于 2016-1-28 20:17 編輯
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6 |- H; d& u0 @998經(jīng)常說的4000米,就是美國一般工程師的工資水平,工作年限5年左右,主要看自己的能力,尤其是動手能力。美國工業(yè)體系和中國工業(yè)體系(模仿蘇聯(lián))差別很大,工程師自己不能動手做自己設(shè)計的東西是不可想象的,除非不是你專業(yè)領(lǐng)域的東西,才有借口說不會。+ G- Q7 C! x0 v" p% Q& ^+ F* q$ w7 V

9 \+ A/ j6 U! r, y# K補(bǔ)充內(nèi)容 (2016-1-29 15:43):
' [1 V4 |  c4 \6 M0 k! ?# P. G人說井底之蛙,不會承認(rèn)的,但一開口就知道你是不是,哈哈,

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樓下說得對,這樣的SB老板還不少呢  發(fā)表于 2016-1-29 13:07
“其實不是工程師不會,是老板不讓干。鉗工多少一個月,工程師多少錢一個月,領(lǐng)了工程師的錢去車間裝配調(diào)機(jī),老板心疼。”--這句話挺在理的  發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 21:53
其實不是工程師不會,是老板不讓干。鉗工多少一個月,工程師多少錢一個月,領(lǐng)了工程師的錢去車間裝配調(diào)機(jī),老板心疼。要是老板愿意,其實我挺樂意。  發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 21:29
比如一臺設(shè)備,不知道工程師是要會自己加工零件呢?還是要會自己動手組裝和調(diào)試?  發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 21:27
那,比如那個吸盤,這個哥們至少得會車床了吧。我不是科班,不太懂國內(nèi)跟國外工程師培養(yǎng)有什么不一樣的。同樣三十年,我們工作時間都花在哪了?  詳情 回復(fù) 發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 20:38
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山芋頭 發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 20:09
4 h' |6 r+ g3 R: g( _8 a! f998經(jīng)常說的4000米,就是美國一般工程師的工資水平,工作年限5年左右,主要看自己的能力,尤其是動手能力。 ...

  A0 Q0 _; [8 d* |那,比如那個吸盤,這個哥們至少得會車床了吧。我不是科班,不太懂國內(nèi)跟國外工程師培養(yǎng)有什么不一樣的。同樣三十年,我們工作時間都花在哪了?
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發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 20:39:33 | 只看該作者
I recently just finished my degree and went through the job search process. I found that there was a fairly large number of openings with companies looking for people with a background in hydraulics and hydrology, but the majority were looking for someone with a background in municipal design or watershed modeling and several years of experience. The USACE occasionally also has openings for engineers with a background in hydraulics (they have two right now for hydraulic engineers as a matter of fact). Look into some of the companies that have previously been involved with projects that seem to be similar to what you'd be into and see if they're hiring (or just send them a resume and cover letter regardless; they don't always post on the job boards!). % x' F% \1 r. m- G  d
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With only a bachelor's the starting salaries I was finding was only between $46k to $49k, but with a Master's I was finding between $54k to $57k. The positions capped out at between $90k to $103k. I'm honestly not sure how these compare to other specializations...I wouldn't be surprised at all if structurals earned more!
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If you do decide on heading into h&h, however, I would strongly suggest continuing on and getting your master's. It may not pay off immediately upon graduation without the work experience to go with it, but the positions that appeared to be the most interesting and challenging required an advanced degree.
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發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 20:40:00 | 只看該作者
I would go do a quick yahoo job search and see what people are paying. ; |* y; @5 T; M

1 j0 a0 D( ?6 e) e5 S& }I know some guys who are simple coal miners and make 500k a year if they agree to go over sea's and work. Other wise it's back to the regular 60k a year pay. It just depends on where it is needed and how valuable your skill is.
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. V' h3 V. s$ X, OHowever as for hydraulics I knew a guy who got out of the navy got offered like 90k a year to go work on satellite dishes...

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。。。  發(fā)表于 2016-1-29 09:37
sorry,底三層,自己瞎踩又不肯上進(jìn),空著97層給紅毛住。  發(fā)表于 2016-1-29 08:41
國人最喜歡踩人,這就是第三層的現(xiàn)狀。此層主的英文句式與普通英文論壇中的帖子很相似,看著也舒服。  發(fā)表于 2016-1-29 08:40
詞匯可以,句型一塌糊涂,非有點(diǎn)英文底子的中國人不能解也!  發(fā)表于 2016-1-29 08:15
有些地方看不太明白,看來我英語還可以,哈哈!!!  發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 23:31
我能不能吐槽一下,中式英語  發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 21:21
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發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 22:08:39 | 只看該作者
我還想去米國遞扳手呢
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發(fā)表于 2016-1-29 08:55:28 | 只看該作者
有時候想去車間干干活,師傅都不敢讓我干,因為不會啊,更別提機(jī)床了,計件生產(chǎn),一個比一個急
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